Season 4: Episode 9
Big Brakes

Big Brakes

Chris Duke from Motorz TV shows you how to install a big brake upgrade kit and bleed the brakes on a Mustang GT, change front brake pads on a 2004 Honda Pilot, and demonstrates the use of a vacuum type bleeder on a 2005 Ford F-150.

Episode Links

Sears Blue Tool Crew
Baer Brake Systems

Partz Mentions

Sears Blue Tool Crew
DJM Suspension
Agent 47

Episode Notes

Have you ever wanted to learn how to upgrade your brake system to something bigger, providing more stopping power? How about how to bleed your brakes? Or do something as simple as changing the front brake pads on a SUV? It’s easier than you think! Learn the ins and outs with a ton of tips along the way in this huge brakes episode.

In this episode of Motorz, Chris Duke takes you through the step-by-step on how to upgrade the stock brake system on a 2008 Ford Mustang GT with Baer Brake Systems’ Pro Plus front brake system which includes larger diameter 14-inch rotors, stainless steel brake lines, and incredibly awesome six-piston calipers. Then he jumps to the rear of the vehicle and shows you how to install Baer’s Eradispeed Plus rear rotor conversion kit.

Brake pads on SUVs need to be replaced frequently, quite often because vehicle manufacturers put pads and rotors more suitable for cars on their larger and heavier SUVs. Why spend all that money taking it to a shop every year when you can do it yourself? In this episode, Chris shows you how to replace your old brake pads on a 2004 Honda Pilot with brand new ones.

In addition, you’ll learn how to bleed your brakes using two completely different methods. First, Chris shows you how to bleed your brakes using a traditional method where one person sits inside the vehicle and pumps the brake pedal while another person opens up the bleeder and dumps fluid into a container. If you’re on your own, however, you may be interested to learn about another method which uses a vacuum type bleeder and makes bleeding your brakes a snap!

If you’ve ever wanted to learn more about brakes, then this jam-packed episode is for you. Be sure to stay tuned to the end to catch new products featured in the Partz segment, and Chris answers fan mail in the Letterz segment.

Music

This episode features music from COLDWEST. “Snakeskinner”, “Ignition”, and a custom song for the Motorz Intro.

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Disclaimer

THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THESE PROGRAMS AND WEBSITE ARE FOR GENERAL INFORMATION ONLY AND ARE NOT DIRECTED TO ANY PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL OR FOR ANY PARTICULAR MAKE OR MODEL OF VEHICLE. MODIFYING YOUR VEHICLE CAN BE DANGEROUS. APPROPRIATE SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND PROCEDURES SHOULD BE USED. USE CAUTION WHEN OPERATING A MODIFIED VEHICLE AND REMEMBER YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. THE PROGRAMS, DEMONSTRATIONS AND/OR PROCEDURES MAY NOT PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY OR RELEVANT INFORMATION. APPLICABLE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS SHOULD BE CHECKED BEFORE ANY PROJECT IS COMMENCED. ADDITIONALLY, BEFORE COMMENCING YOUR PROJECT, YOU SHOULD CHECK A VEHICLE'S OWNER'S MANUAL, SHOP MANUAL, WARRANTY BOOKLET AND/OR WITH A MANUFACTURER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EFFECT, IF ANY, A MODIFICATION WILL HAVE ON THE SAFETY FEATURES OR THE MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY COVERAGE OF YOUR VEHICLE. PLEASE GET PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, AND, IF PROVIDED, ALWAYS REVIEW THE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS OF ANY AFTERMARKET PRODUCT. DUKE NETWORKS, LLC MAKES NO WARRANTIES EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED AS TO THE COMPLETENESS, ACCURACY, NON-INFRINGEMENT, MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OF ANY OF THE DEMONSTRATIONS, PROCEDURES, AND/OR PROGRAMS NOR DOES IT GUARANTEE THAT THE PROGRAMS WILL BE ERROR-FREE OR CONTINUOUSLY AVAILABLE. YOUR USE OF THIS WEBSITE AND THE PROGRAMS CONTAINED THEREIN ARE AT YOUR SOLE RISK.

114 Responses to “Big Brakes”

  1. findtmoon Says:

    Use flare nut wrenches, on hydralic lines, Great video!

  2. motorztv Says:

    @findtmoon You’re right… that’s a good tip. Thanks!

  3. fordtruck0 Says:

    I am planning to upgrade my brakes on my truck this summer. this is a great help

  4. BColemanEXD Says:

    Once a month is all we get out of you Chris? I so look forward to watching your vids on MotorzTV but they come about so slowly. Keep up the great work!

  5. motorztv Says:

    @BColemanEXD First, thanks for watching–I appreciate it. Second, keep in mind that when it comes to post-production I’m a one-man show. There’s a lot that goes into a half hour TV show (it’s not something I slap together quickly) so it takes 2-3 weeks to produce a new episode.

  6. integraz32lover Says:

    you guys really need some imports on this show,every show that deals with cars never has imports,just mustangs and corvettes

  7. motorztv Says:

    @integraz32lover The Honda Pilot is an import :)

  8. integraz32lover Says:

    @motorztv OHHH,i didnt watch the entire video so i didnt see the part with the Pilot,i didnt even watch the first minute cuz i already know how to fix brakes

  9. motorztv Says:

    @integraz32lover LOL no worries… but I hear ya, and we are working on bringing more imports on the show. Thanks for watching and please help spread the word about my show–Chris

  10. bsl3216 Says:

    @moterztv when you going to work on my 2008 f150 reg cab

  11. integraz32lover Says:

    @motorztv Your welcome,btw i know a friend that is in to auto repair so ill suggest you to him.

  12. integraz32lover Says:

    @motorztv btw just a suggestion but you should do a episode on regular automotive maintainence and care

  13. theflashjaxx Says:

    great video as always, i am surprised u didnt mention what break fluid likes to do to paint if u dont clean it up soon enough

  14. motorztv Says:

    @bsl3216 That’s next week’s episode LOL

  15. fastlaneinc Says:

    Awesome, we’ve installed that DJM suspension, it’s probably one of the best packages you can buy. Really nice stuff.

  16. motorztv Says:

    @integraz32lover So glad you mentioned that. Upcoming episode 11 is all about fluids, and we’ll have more maintenance episodes in the future!

  17. motorztv Says:

    @fastlaneinc It’s an awesome kit… built like a tank!

  18. motorztv Says:

    @BColemanEXD Also, this is a full half hour show in one upload/video. I could break it up into separate video segments (install segment, new products segment, letters segment, etc.) and spread them out over time but viewers have told me they like it all together in the long show format. What’s your opinion?

  19. integraz32lover Says:

    @motorztv Thanks!I cant wait to see the next episode,and future car care episodes,btw when is the next episode being uploaded?

  20. motorztv Says:

    @integraz32lover 2-3 weeks from now, probably closer to 2.

  21. Kirbynessness Says:

    Woah Chris in’ts touching all that brake fluid with your bare hands hazardous? At least that’s what I’ve heard, that it makes your skin itch and that you should always wear gloves when handling brake fluid..

  22. motorztv Says:

    @Kirbynessness Oh not at all!! Just washes away with soap and water.

  23. motorztv Says:

    Keep it off your paint, rubber, upholstery, out of your eyes, and don’t drink it!

  24. Scharfschutze13 Says:

    Please show us how to install a shake hood scoop :D

  25. motorztv Says:

    @Scharfschutze13 We are planning to do a functional hood in the future!

  26. cold02rex Says:

    Big brakes wont make you stop faster given any legal speed and hard braking.. Tires will. Big money brakes are for repeated high deceleration demands. Basically to avoid fade.

  27. shitpickle1128 Says:

    sick rims both on the mustang and the f150

  28. JimPrower Says:

    I’ve done a few of these myself…well, not so much upgrade, but I HAVE had to replace a broken brake line on my old ’88 AE82 Nova. I’ve been looking at upgrading the brakes on my current 1996 200SX. Interesting, though, that you went with DOT 3, rather than upgrading to DOT 5 with the brakes, since they’ll produce a bit more heat, though I kind of understand that you’re doing this educationally, and want people to use the stuff in the owner’s manual.

  29. automotiveDIY Says:

    @motorztv cause brake fluid taste like shit

  30. asemastertech86 Says:

    actually you want to start bleeding at the wheel farthest from the master cylinder then get closer and closer.

  31. integraz32lover Says:

    @motorztv alright

  32. mrjost55 Says:

    Guys, keep in mind that drilled rotors can fracture and develop cracks in the metal. This isn’t a problem for racing teams because they replace their brakes after each race. But a regular consumer doesn’t, so it’s much safer to go with the slotted rotors instead.

  33. ambee514 Says:

    Ok now here is a good topic. I don’t know if this is a bit much for a DIY, but fixing your alignment!

  34. mabolzichjjl Says:

    whats the idea behind larger diam rotors in the rear with the OEM pistons?

  35. kjbrimm Says:

    DOT 3 the most common?

  36. 0000UnDead0000 Says:

    Do you plan on showing, or plan on giving tips how to install a supercharger in the future?

  37. motorztv Says:

    @0000UnDead0000 We just did that a few episodes ago. Check it out! “How-To Install a ProCharger Supercharger”

  38. motorztv Says:

    @kjbrimm Yes

  39. reallunacy Says:

    @mabolzichjjl Simply that it provides better stopping power. If you drive in harsher conditions or are adding performance upgrades to your ride you need to be able to stop and these will do it better.

  40. alienboy366 Says:

    will bigger brakes usually work with stock rims? or will they not fit?

  41. kickeraudio987 Says:

    when ever you compress the piston its not good to let the fluid flow back up to the resivor because it can mess up the abs sensor with debris. always open bleeder screw .

  42. motorztv Says:

    @kickeraudio987 Good tip! Or put some rags around the reservoir. In all the vehicles we’ve done brakes on we’ve never had it overflow… it’s such a minimal amount of fluid difference that it’s hardly noticeable.

  43. mechanicnamedjohn Says:

    I also recommend to clean and lube the caliper slides; you can buy a lube specifically for this. This is a very important step that is often overlooked. Uneven wear of the pads is mostly related to sticking pins/slides.

  44. BColemanEXD Says:

    @motorztv Thanks for the response Chris. I indeed prefer the long version of the shows. I also understand that you’ve got a full time job outside of Motorz and that you are a one-man band so to speak. What can we do, as your viewers, to promote Motorz to networks to get you a weekly spot on a major network? With so few modding shows on television these days, it would be great to add your show to that short weekly list.

  45. ViperVenomACR Says:

    well can u bleed the brakes but just pumping the pedal with the cap of the reservoir open?!

  46. sidewayznut2009 Says:

    This isn’t any new info to me but this is definatly a very good and informative video to have. I hate to say how many people would change a brake caliper and just think they could simply add more fluid.

  47. patricksmasher Says:

    This really helped me! I’ve been looking for videos that would help me change the calipers. Thanks sir!

  48. motorztv Says:

    @mabolzichjjl The larger the diameter of the rotor the more surface area you have so they cool faster. You don’t need as much stopping power in the rear since they only do a small percentage of the braking.

  49. motorztv Says:

    @alienboy366 They won’t work with most stock wheels. This Mustang’s wheels are 20″ and there isn’t much room so I don’t think you can use anything smaller.

  50. motorztv Says:

    @BColemanEXD The best thing to do is to try and track down a program director at the network and ask them specifically about Motorz. The more requests they get, the higher the chance they’ll act on it. Most networks have feedback forms at their websites, but I suspect those emails will fall on deaf ears so I recommend calling. Thank you so much!

  51. 08scionFM Says:

    I’m guessing the hood rubs on those fancy strut tower covers….

  52. motorztv Says:

    @08scionFM You guessed right!

  53. MrKaoVue Says:

    i have a a few questions, do the aftermarket brake kit actually come with Torque ratio? and what if the pads go bad on the caliper, replace the whole caliper? looks like its all in one lol, thanks

  54. 0000UnDead0000 Says:

    @motorztv Ahh thank you, accidentaly missed it! See this is why i watch your show, yah got everything covered, awsome work keep up the good job.

  55. cmm170526 Says:

    I have a quick question. But first, I just wanted to say “Thanks” for a great and informative video. Your productions are very professional and easy to relate to. My question is: is there a need to check for lateral run out? Also, would the new pads need to be lubricated prior to installation? Thanks again for your great videos.

  56. 35057 Says:

    Great show as always but on the Pilot; Those thin metal clips that shim the pads to the bracket should be replaced. Also should clean out the area behind that. Any rust or dust will bind up the pads and result in un-even wear, premature wear, overheating, or cause the wheel to pull when the brakes are applied. These are a full floating caliper and should move freely. Anyway. Carry on.. Good show!

  57. 1411funnystuff Says:

    I wish I had the money to do this to my mustang… Any help?

  58. 1411funnystuff Says:

    I wish I had the money to do this to my mustang… Any help?

  59. boy638 Says:

    hey you can install the calipers at any side of the brake disc right?

  60. rolficus Says:

    what about the brake booster if you up the caliper pistons and disc size do you need to put in a bigger brake booster to handle the load

  61. thejazz1510 Says:

    how bout showing how to install disk brakes on all 4 wheels on the f150?

  62. motorztv Says:

    @thejazz1510 Thy is something we will probably do!

  63. thejazz1510 Says:

    @motorztv thatll be awesome i want to do that to my f150

  64. thejazz1510 Says:

    @motorztv thatll be awesome i want to do that to my f150

  65. wackos90 Says:

    Does ABS still work and does it really decrease stopping distance

  66. ekul1021 Says:

    Thank you for the video Chris, your videos have helped me saved thousands of dollars in repairing my car and etc.

  67. sfloridamudbogger Says:

    @boy638 Naw, calipers have a left and a right, rotors are the same though. Some brake pads even have an inner and an outer. My F150 front pads are the same but in the rear I have an inner and outer pad, and we have hub assemblies up front so the whole hub and rotor is one piece, the rear has a parking/emergency brake drum attatched to it. Pretty cool.

  68. alexsensatio215 Says:

    can you guy do a show on how to change brakes on a Chevy Tahoe LTZ?

  69. Joeasia1981 Says:

    That stang has zero rust, all the parts come out so easy, how about you bring it to michigan for a few months in the winter and try to work on it then :)

  70. SrgScream Says:

    nick seeems very nerves

  71. USFCARTWRIGHT Says:

    @wackos90 just an FYI ABS has NEVER decreased stopping distance at all, it clearly says so in every car manual there ever was, including your driver’s license manual. it simply makes it so you can keep control and be able to stop AND swerve compared to non abs where you just skid into someone.

  72. cds417 Says:

    @motorztv you need to make the video bad i need a video on it too!!!!

  73. cds417 Says:

    @motorztv you need to make the video bad i need a video on it too!!!!

  74. cds417 Says:

    @motorztv you need to make the video bad i need a video on it too!!!!

  75. kidninja09 Says:

    Dude you’re awesome! I’ve learned so much by watching your videos. Do you take donations?

  76. motorztv Says:

    @kidninja09 Thanks! No donations, but we do appreciate you spreading the word!

  77. muchogoocho Says:

    @motorztv you really refuse donations?

  78. motorztv Says:

    @muchogoocho We’d rather you help spread the word about Motorz or buy something in our online store! Thanks :)

  79. Chevyboy5700 Says:

    think you could do a video on how to install nurf bars?

  80. PoliceWillProtect Says:

    well what if your only doing the front two rotors will you only bleed the two

  81. motorztv Says:

    NOTE: All our previous videos were accidentally deleted, so we had to re-upload them all. Sorry for the inconvenience. We hope you continue to subscribe, LIKE and Favorite our videos! Visit our website (motorz.tv) for more!

  82. PoliceWillProtect Says:

    well what if your only doing the front two rotors will you only bleed the two

  83. krazyraver69 Says:

    only one question, I know mostkits come with upgrades and new brake pads but how do you go about replacing those when it comes time? Do you search for the oem size pad ordo you have to buy pads made for the upgraded calipers?

  84. krazyraver69 Says:

    only one question, I know mostkits come with upgrades and new brake pads but how do you go about replacing those when it comes time? Do you search for the oem size pad ordo you have to buy pads made for the upgraded calipers?

  85. mrcokez1 Says:

    that gold craftsman set looks sweet…im going to have to pick those up and will make a great gift !

  86. mrcokez1 Says:

    that gold craftsman set looks sweet…im going to have to pick those up and will make a great gift !

  87. limzinfo Says:

    at 6:00 Min. “85 pound-foot??” foot pound is energy unit…85 pound food is 3.6 Nm, so light?

  88. limzinfo Says:

    at 6:00 Min. “85 pound-foot??” foot pound is energy unit…85 pound food is 3.6 Nm, so light?

  89. Duhminished Says:

    i need ur help bad when iim driving my car and i go around turns and go to brake it makes a popping noise so i replaced the brake pads and rotors and the same noise happend i dont know whats wrong or if its nothing and they just for some reason pop btw the cars a Hyundai veracruz late 2009 limited edition please help.

  90. Robert Bottomley Says:

    i need ur help bad when iim driving my car and i go around turns and go to brake it makes a popping noise so i replaced the brake pads and rotors and the same noise happend i dont know whats wrong or if its nothing and they just for some reason pop btw the cars a Hyundai veracruz late 2009 limited edition please help.

  91. Duhminished Says:

    i need ur help bad when iim driving my car and i go around turns and go to brake it makes a popping noise so i replaced the brake pads and rotors and the same noise happend i dont know whats wrong or if its nothing and they just for some reason pop btw the cars a Hyundai veracruz late 2009 limited edition please help.

  92. Graylusion Says:

    85 foot pound is 115 Nm

  93. Graylusion Says:

    85 foot pound is 115 Nm

  94. Dwayne Says:

    thanks

  95. porscheautobahn Says:

    no pads on the mustang?

  96. porscheautobahn Says:

    no pads on the mustang?

  97. kkuo326 Says:

    why do you have to retorque the lug nuts after 20 miles?

  98. kkuo326 Says:

    why do you have to retorque the lug nuts after 20 miles?

  99. willynilly1569 Says:

    so they don’t loosen and break all your lug studs its a very crucial step don’t forget it.

  100. willynilly1569 Says:

    so they don’t loosen and break all your lug studs its a very crucial step don’t forget it.

  101. SushiPac Says:

    also when you are changing the brakes on that honda pilot (13:03) . why are you compressing the piston with the the material side of the brake pad against the piston. that can possibly damage the face of the piston and the rubber seal around it. and if its not worn evenly then the piston will get pressed in crooked and mess up the piston. you should also check those slider pins to make sure they slid in and out. because if they dont they need to be pulled out and re greased .

  102. SushiPac Says:

    also when you are changing the brakes on that honda pilot (13:03) . why are you compressing the piston with the the material side of the brake pad against the piston. that can possibly damage the face of the piston and the rubber seal around it. and if its not worn evenly then the piston will get pressed in crooked and mess up the piston. you should also check those slider pins to make sure they slid in and out. because if they dont they need to be pulled out and re greased .

  103. Vincent Mai Says:

    hi i was wondering if you can do a video on replacing big brake pads and friction ring off the rotor. i have big brake kit on my car and its coming up to that time to change the pads and rotors but i don’t want to spend all that money replacing the whole rotor. i heard all i have to do is replace the friction ring cause the rotors are two piece

  104. Vincent Mai Says:

    hi i was wondering if you can do a video on replacing big brake pads and friction ring off the rotor. i have big brake kit on my car and its coming up to that time to change the pads and rotors but i don’t want to spend all that money replacing the whole rotor. i heard all i have to do is replace the friction ring cause the rotors are two piece

  105. R0ckstrmik3 Says:

    looks backward lol. but many are different

  106. R0ckstrmik3 Says:

    looks backward lol. but many are different

  107. acroracing Says:

    Really??? Fucking commercials?

  108. Cappin Teddy Says:

    You’re on a nifty website called Youtube, so quit being a whiny cunt and skip them.

  109. Cory Colstock Says:

    What I don’t understand is why there is never a rear brake kit. I know you guys make a rear kit (baer) but can I ask “Why do some company’s make only a Front brake kit.”

  110. allgrid Says:

    in a 50/50 wieght car 70% of the braking is done by the fronts, mustange is front heavy anyway i think so that’ll be over 70%. also rear brake calipers are more of a pain to play with or go aftermarket as they include the hanbrake cable in them. hope that helps

  111. scumdog88 Says:

    i have a 1997 gmc sierra 2wheel drive. can NOT NOT NOT get the rear brakes to bleed out. replaced master all new brakes. if i have somebody pump the brakes and hold it then i go to open the rear brake resivor fitting nothing comes out. now if i open if you dont pump the brake and just open the fitting then have somebody step down on the peddle with out pumping it it will shoot a steady stream from the rear brake resivor but nothing when its pumped up. i cant figure it out

  112. GTChannel Says:

    Installing a big brake kit is one of the essentials in creating a complete street/race car. You need to be able to STOP and not just GO. Remember that. Follow along w/Motorz’s Chris Duke.

  113. NQGriggs Says:

    That Sears Tools dude makes me feel uncomfortable.

  114. Jason Barnett Says:

    Nice production, but I have a bit of an issue with the quick explanation of why bigger brakes are better. He says the larger diameter rotors will give “more surface area” for the pad to contact. While it may be true that there is more pad surface area, that has nothing to do with the diameter of the rotor. You could put a caliper with a wider pad footprint on any diameter rotor. The reason you install larger diameter rotors is the increased leverage it gives the brake to slow the rotation of the disk and thus the wheel. (Imagine if you were trying to stop the wheel spinning with a wrench applied to the hub; the longer your wrench, the more force you could apply.) This may be obvious to those used to working with brakes, but I think it should be stated in the video for those who actually want to understand what’s going on. Also, Baer recommends you remove the debris shields when installing big brake kits. Since you’re applying more stopping power, you’re creating more heat from friction in the rotors, and so need as much air to cool them as possible. On this Mustang, I also think they should mention that brake cooling ducts should be added for cooling, especially if aggressive street or track use is anticipated. Again, you’re putting a lot more heat in disks and pads with big brakes.

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