Season 2: Episode 6
Ford Mustang Viper 5900 Car Alarm Installation

Ford Mustang Viper 5900 Car Alarm Installation

Chris Duke from Motorz TV shows you how to install a Viper 5900 car alarm on a 2008 Ford Mustang GT, complete with all the wiring information that you need.

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Wiring information for Viper 5900 car alarm and 2008 Ford Mustang GT

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135 Responses to “Ford Mustang Viper 5900 Car Alarm Installation”

  1. MeanStang08 Says:

    damn… i LOVE the new intro and segways! and even the little opacitied logo in the corner.. =D as for the install.. wow.. lotta wires.. lol nice job doing it though. i love those posi-traction (pun intended) wiring splicers thingies.. i miss the bottle opener =( awesome video!!

  2. WatchoutXP Says:

    Woah, awesome vid! Man, there a lot of wires. 0.0 Just takes time and patience I guess. Can’t wait for the live show!!!

  3. Davidik50 Says:

    Mustang rocks!

  4. bigblockmustang Says:

    Wow Chris.. Lot’s of work on this video.. I can’t tell you how many cars over the years came in the shop that I had to cut out the alarm.. They are nice when they work.. but when they fail.. chances are you just came out of the store with Ice Cream and it’s 100 degrees out or It’s raining “Cats & Dogs” and your late for a meeting.. ;=) Les

  5. nscurge Says:

    Chris would u recommend this alarm on a 2006 Chrysler 300 Touring?

  6. stewartfreak Says:

    Another great video! Thnaks again for the sticker! Keep em coming!

  7. priscybermudes Says:

    i have a viper alarm on my car, when i activate it only the lights work no beep beep and the inside lil red light vstays on it dosnt blink no more if i open the door the alarm dosnt go off can you help.

  8. stealthsniper96 Says:

    i wanted to hear the alarm

  9. j45007 Says:

    Cool Video.

  10. usaamerica1 Says:

    i hate working on the passenger side of cars it kills your ribs!

  11. unluckykid256932 Says:

    It’s better than having to crawl under the steering wheel.

  12. stereotech2002 Says:

    sounds like you alarm is in valet just rty opening your door find your valet switch press the button the light should turn off and all good . if not take back to the dealer were you bought .

  13. Khvac Says:

    Youre viper alarm is in valet mode Look under the dash for pushbutton put youre key in the ignition at the same time u cycle the ignition on and off press and depress the valet button.

  14. nuclearthreat545 Says:

    everything that you’ve done to the truck and the mustang i’ve pretty much done to my f150 too. Thanks for all the help guys!

  15. digimonfan81 Says:

    my uncle’s car has one but i thin it’s an earlier one that talks and when you take out the key it’s still on O_o

  16. salemcripple Says:

    Sweet. I’ll have to check out those posi Taps.

  17. brownmokey Says:

    This is way to complicated for me. Im going to car toys instead.

  18. jasonman1515 Says:

    you should always remove the negative cable first. You could make the battery loose its charge. learned that at my school.

  19. WatchoutXP Says:

    Woah, awesome vid! Man, there a lot of wires. 0.0 Just takes time and patience I guess. Can't wait for the live show!!!

  20. bigblockmustang Says:

    Wow Chris.. Lot's of work on this video.. I can't tell you how many cars over the years came in the shop that I had to cut out the alarm.. They are nice when they work.. but when they fail.. chances are you just came out of the store with Ice Cream and it's 100 degrees out or It's raining "Cats & Dogs" and your late for a meeting.. ;=) Les

  21. stealthsniper96 Says:

    i wanted to hear the alarm

  22. unluckykid256932 Says:

    It's better than having to crawl under the steering wheel.

  23. nuclearthreat545 Says:

    everything that you've done to the truck and the mustang i've pretty much done to my f150 too. Thanks for all the help guys!

  24. digimonfan81 Says:

    my uncle's car has one but i thin it's an earlier one that talks and when you take out the key it's still on O_o

  25. salemcripple Says:

    Sweet. I'll have to check out those posi Taps.

  26. jaworskij Says:

    I can deactivate any car horn alarm with just my mind. They are so damn noisy at night, so I just "pull" the wires apart with my thoughts, and 5 seconds later the horn stops.

  27. RangerMan64 Says:

    I like the new intro

  28. mmassa42069 Says:

    Very through install… Good Job

  29. SoniC1989 Says:

    this is a good tutorial thingy, i preferred the other intro though, good job though dude!

  30. sl0wm03 Says:

    installing a car alarm isn’t as easy as this video makes it look

  31. motorztv Says:

    No, it certainly isn’t an easy thing to do (especially in a 10 minute timeframe), but the goal is to give a good overview of everything that is involved so that if you do have some interest in doing it yourself, you know what you’re in for. We haven’t had any issues with this alarm since we installed it–it’s a solid alarm and a solid installation.

  32. joginder Says:

    need help for 1996 acura 3.2t for remote stater

  33. stang Says:

    Help for 06 Mustang remote stater (Automatic)

  34. redjixxx Says:

    i just wanted to say thank you this video just proves that not anyone can properly do a remote starter or alarm system. this is so far from being correct its just a joke

  35. Ford Fleet Sales Says:

    That is not an easy job. I've done car stereo installs for years, and I'm not even sure I'd want to tackle that one. Too many things you can mess up. Probably leave that job to the pro's.

  36. heartdoggies Says:

    humm let me ask you and see what you may think about this. I went on vacation for 2 weeks and left my truck with the viper 5900 alarm. It was working just fine. I got home and went to go somewhere in my truck and the battery was dead. I jumped it and it works fine. But now my remote just chirps at me and wont activate the alarm. I even replaced the remote battery. Any ideas?

  37. motorztv Says:

    @heartdoggies Sounds like it might need to be reset, or a wire came loose and it’s coincidental. We haven’t encountered that with our alarm. Try viper(dot)com/support

  38. elcheech85 Says:

    @ heartdoggies it’s an easy fix, your remote lost it’s programming,

  39. makesomemuney Says:

    They didnt even demonstrate the alarm?? Probably couldn’t get it to work.

  40. motorztv Says:

    @makesomemuney We didn’t have enough time to run through all the functions of the alarm, but yes–it works fine and we haven’t had any problems with it since we installed it on-camera for this episode. It chirps, and makes noise as it should.

  41. USAboy247 Says:

    Hey I have a 98 Mazda 626. The alarm for it don’t come on any more when I lock the doors. It didn’t come with a remote when I brought it so do it need to be reset? If so how is that done?

  42. nismo2point0 Says:

    what’s to prevent this vehicle from remote starting in gear the way this was installed?

  43. motorztv Says:

    @nismo2point0 We didn’t purchase or install a remote start for this. I’m not sure how that would work with a manual transmission, however I would think that it wouldn’t work if you left it in gear.

  44. trextegra Says:

    actually you can install a remote start in a manual tranny and you can start it in gear which is why no alarm company will install them automatics have nuetral safety switchs to prevent this if you override this and start the car in gear it will either just stall out or take off lol

  45. nuclearmuscleX523 Says:

    I saw in the portion for the remote start you had eight connections made at the ignition harness. what were they?

  46. nismo2point0 Says:

    @trextegra well there are remote starters intended for manual transmission vehicles which have some kind of “reservation mode” that forces you to leave the car running after you take they key out. The system then shuts the car down once you arm it, ensuring the car was left in neutral when you got out, assuming windows are closed and top is up (if convertible) so that the shift lever cannot be accidently placed into gear. Any door open or disarming the system will void the mode usually.

  47. Olskoolbeats Says:

    This video is very helpful and informative, but c’mon. In the last 3 years, we’re still having cars not come with FACTORY alarm systems?

  48. AcheroTrance Says:

    @nismo2point0 It’s called E-Brake.

  49. motorztv Says:

    @Olskoolbeats Many factory alarm systems are inadequate, leaving room for aftermarket alarms to step in with more features.

  50. Olskoolbeats Says:

    @motorztv Good point.

  51. NYVideoGuy Says:

    It is always safer to remove the negative battery cable instead, the reason is if your wrench ever touches any metal part on the car when removing the positive cable you will create a short and burn out the fusable links and probably your hand on the hot wrench. All that can always be prevented by always removing the negative cable first which is ground so if wrench touches the chassis if doesn’t matter. I hope this tip saves someone some grief.

  52. motorztv Says:

    @NYVideoGuy Very good tip and reason for doing it that way. Thanks!

  53. Bigeagle120 Says:

    i am always taking out these aftermarket alarms. they are nothing but juck!

  54. artsacc Says:

    @Bigeagle120 if the product is of good quality and installed properly there is no issue with them

  55. UaeDelta Says:

    Looks hard to install. Can you toggle with the alarm tone?

  56. ndenn002 Says:

    gosh that posi product makes installs so easy shit i wish i knew about that before def use it on the next install i do on my other car

  57. neltech Says:

    are you MECP certified?

  58. motorztv Says:

    @neltech No… nor do I claim to be.

  59. zerosnowman Says:

    What about the bypass module for remote start?

  60. noHACKinstalls Says:

    @motorztv that system includes a remote start and it will work with the car in gear, remote start your car and watch it drive away and the e-brake will do nothing to stop it

  61. golden290 Says:

    “This just pops off, and once you get that off this one just pops right off too” ahahaha ford…

  62. itsd4real Says:

    you use posi-tap I went to the website to buy one and noticed there are several sizes. What size should i buy if I want to use this for installing a car remote starter like you’ve done. Thanks

  63. motorztv Says:

    @itsd4real You can check the video again, but we used mostly the blue ones and red ones as I recall.

  64. B0N0FAN Says:

    @Olskoolbeats yeh man.. your right they never come with cars never

  65. st604boy Says:

    Sup Chris, a while back i bought a car alarm for my car. The alarm supposedly have the engine start but the owner of the shop said that i have to pay extra if i want that option. So i didnt, because it was like 100 dollars more. So i was wandering, for the engine start option, is it just some wiring that you do for it to work? or does it have its own little box or harness that is needed? Because if its just wiring, then can I wired them myself to make the engine start on my car alarm work?

  66. motorztv Says:

    @st604boy Honestly, I can’t say since we didn’t install it. Since it’s an option I’m assuming it’s another part that you have to buy that adds onto it and requires connecting wires to the starter. Perhaps someone else who’s done it can respond with their experiences.

  67. st604boy Says:

    @motorztv Oh ok, thanks anyways.

  68. gohan8211 Says:

    i need help installing my all its the same as the one on this video i took it off my other car 2put it in my new one but i cant figure out were 2conecet 2lil wires there green/white & green/black any body hepl me out plz thankz

  69. mrbiggoggles314 Says:

    This helped me so much REMOVING a car alarm some idiot installed, its a nasty mess

  70. motorztv Says:

    @mrbiggoggles314 LOL — glad it helped, even though the intention was to show you how to install it!

  71. mrbiggoggles314 Says:

    @motorztv If you saw how bad this was installed, you would understand, haha, I think whoever owned the car before me and installed this in has never touched a saudering iron in thier life, there is electrical tape EVERYWHERE and the biggest nest of wires iv ever seen in my life.

  72. ilublovovitch Says:

    Why install? The consensus is that car alarms do not deter theft or car damage,

  73. KingOfTheClutch Says:

    @mrbiggoggles314 It’s a wonder how some people think they are mechanics for a day. I bought my 95 F150 Eddie Bauer from my sister, the former owner installed an alarm, but, the truck came stock with an alarm as well, the stock offered an alarm with keyless entry, the Commando FM-870 they installed offered Alarm and Remote start, which is fine, until you get to the alarm aspect, the whole system is messed up, I removed ALL of it, and installed a Viper 5701, everything is fixed now.

  74. dereileak Says:

    @NYVideoGuy the main problem with that is if the car has one of those things where you have to take it to a dealer to reset it, and its always good to test for wires before installing them, example, I installed one in a camery, and there where 2 black yellow wires, one for starter, one for ignition, I had to test them, cause they looked the same

  75. MrYoungNbrown Says:

    hey chris i got one question, its possible to install a viper 5901 alarm on a 1994 honda accord rite??

  76. motorztv Says:

    @MrYoungNbrown I would check with Viper on that one…

  77. buglergirl1 Says:

    Hey i need help installing a Viper 2 way ResponderLC alarm in a 92 nissain pick up. I dont have a tech sheet. Email me if you can help me, [email protected]

  78. h23sirlude Says:

    @MrYoungNbrown Yes you can.

  79. ACTORDAVIDTRAN Says:

    @MrYoungNbrown I would second the advice given of checking in with Viper on that, and also add my own advice from installing a Mars 01 Remote Start on a 1996 Toyota Camry, and the difference between ust installing the alarm and the alarm with remote start is that there are a lot more wires to attach to start the car and also possible wires you have to cut in order to add in the anti-grind/engine disabler relay. It’s a mouthful, but if you find the right wiring information as to where to attach

  80. ACTORDAVIDTRAN Says:

    @MrYoungNbrown the remaining wires, then you’ll be good to go. And hopefully the installer didn’t bone you by cutting off those wires that went to your harness that connected itself to the brain. If I can do it, you can do it. Just remember to disconnect the battery like he said. I can’t tell you how may times I’ve burn fuses by making contact to ground. Also I’ve had a 94 Accord before and good for you because you don’t have any bypasses needed like the newer systems, just get access underneath

  81. Guyfromhe Says:

    I just wanted to say that I’m glad to hear about posi-taps they look like they would be extremely secure as something that is threaded on both ends should be nearly impossible to pull apart. I had my doubts about the tap side until you showed how they worked, their site is a bit misleading. I just ordered a couple sets of taps and twists from their site, looking forward to “fixing” the one connector I couldn’t solder which has left me a bit worried. Thanks for the tutorial.

  82. motorztv Says:

    @Guyfromhe You’re welcome. Thanks for watching! We have used them quite a bit and we have never had any failure with them, inside or outside of our project vehicles. There are a lot of nay-sayers about them (and I do agree soldering is always better), but if you have a ton of wires to solder (in tight spots) then this is by far the easier way to go.

  83. Guyfromhe Says:

    @motorztv I also just went to your website. This is an awesome show! really enjoying watching the how to stuff. Even though a lot of it doesn’t directly apply to me I think it’s super cool learning how it’s actually done. As far as the posi-taps go the connection I will be using it on it currently friction fitted into a fuse holder and taped down so pretty much anything would be more secure than that, though it has yet to come out so far :P Thx again.

  84. motorztv Says:

    @Guyfromhe I’m glad to hear the show is helping you, and give you ideas for future projects :) Thanks again for watching –Chris

  85. syl20rochon Says:

    I’ve watched your video and I must disagree with your connectors and time issue. I’ve been installing mobile electronics for 18 years and I would say that stripping to wire and soldering the wire is faster than installing the connectors. Soldering is also more reliable and you did mention that in your explanation. I do agree to the comment about disconnecting the negative terminal instead of the positive to avoid shorting out fuse links or others. I really enjoyed your video…good work.

  86. motorztv Says:

    @syl20rochon Thank you for the comment. I did say “and I do agree soldering is always better” in my comment below.

  87. reelfish92 Says:

    i have this exact set-up Viper 5900, no problems,work flawlessly, my local shop gave me an extra sensor for the rear of the vehicle for free, $289 installed + tax

  88. Voivrenetwork Says:

    How do I know if my car came with one? I bought my ’06 GT used..

  89. chilisabogado Says:

    I have a 2009 Mustang GT that already came with a factory alarm system, can you help me on how to install the Viper5900? Thank you for all your help.

  90. ItsYourBoyo7 Says:

    @syl20rochon Hey Man I Have A 95 Thunderbird With A Aftermarket Alarm, ( I Dont Belive Its Factory!). Its Shorting Out, And Down By The Driverside Kick Plane, Theres Something, lol If I Smack The Shit Out Of It, It Works( Sometime)! lmao. Is There Anyway Just To Bypass The Alarm? If I Cant Disarm It, The Car Dont Turn Over! Please Any Help Would Be Appreciated!

  91. ItsYourBoyo7 Says:

    @syl20rochon  Hey Man I Have A 95 Thunderbird With A Aftermarket Alarm, ( I Dont Belive Its Factory!). Its Shorting Out, And Down By The Driverside Kick Plane, Theres Something, lol If I Smack The Shit Out Of It, It Works( Sometime)! lmao. Is There Anyway Just To Bypass The Alarm? If I Cant Disarm It, The Car Dont Turn Over! Please Any Help Would Be Appreciated!

  92. koolaidaudi Says:

    soldering is not a good idea for a car wiring harness. There is constant vibration and movement. The best imo is the crimp connectors with the sealing shrink tube. From auto repair manual- While soldering is not inherently faulty, soldered terminations tend to be reliable and economical ONLY when prepared in a controlled manufacturing environment, and ONLY when the attached components are not subject to flexing or vibration. Thus, soldering is not recommended for auto wiring harness repair.

  93. olllloJEEPollllo Says:

    @motorztv you did at 7.59 so he shouldve watch the whole video Lol. :D

  94. prence1725 Says:

    @syl20rochon can you give me a link to a book are something that can help me with car alarm?

  95. prence1725 Says:

    @syl20rochon  can you give me a link to a book are something that can help me with car alarm?

  96. prence1725 Says:

    @syl20rochon can you give me a link to a book are something that can help me with car alarm?

  97. davidcarl25 Says:

    HEY I JUST WATCHED YOUR VIDEO AND THE RELAY PACK FOR THE REMOTE START PART WHICH YOU DIDNT SAY WAS THEIR YOU HAVE THE PURPLE AND GREEN WIRE BACKWARDS THE PURPLE GOES TO THE STARTER GREEN TO SWICH JUST THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW

  98. motorztv Says:

    @davidcarl25 THANK YOU

  99. biggreen011 Says:

    Awesome, great video

  100. motorztv Says:

    @biggreen011 Thanks!!

  101. robb118821 Says:

    U always take the negative side of the battery off first and install it last. Newer cars are sensitive to electrical shock! Neg cable has less of a spike when removing. Just FYI.

  102. motorztv Says:

    @robb118821 Thanks or the tip–we have been doing that in newer episodes.

  103. bdarville242 Says:

    I have never had to remove any battery terminals while doing an alarm install, and fortunately i haven’t had any electrical issues..

  104. nirosh89 Says:

    this guys got an awesome announcer voice.

  105. nirosh89 Says:

    this guys got an awesome announcer voice.

  106. motorztv Says:

    @nirosh89 Thank you!

  107. gadget01 Says:

    Posi-taps appear to be better vs crimps, but anything aside from soldered/shrink tube insulated wire splice in a vehicle = FAIL, unless you don’t care about long-term reliability, a clean look, or space consumed. Showing one wire being soldered/shrink tubed would take less time vs. the Posi-tap demo, but I’m sure they paid a handsome fee for product placement. A well-soldered connection will have a barely measurable loss if any at all. Other lossy methods act as a resistor and produce heat.

  108. brandon879111 Says:

    Hey I just bought a Viper 5902 and bought an optional thing to add 6 extra features instead of 4. I bought all 6 extra features and I am wondering how much would it cost to install all of this? including the alarm itself plus all the other features, and to have it programmed in the remote. Thanks for replying back! I really need to know!

  109. TOW4LESS1 Says:

    i need to find de harness for 03 crown vic, how do i do it?

  110. TOW4LESS1 Says:

    i need to find de harness for 03 crown vic, how do i do it?

  111. 123mrcanttouchthis Says:

    What gauge wire was used with the posi-taps?

  112. 123mrcanttouchthis Says:

    What gauge wire was used with the posi-taps?

  113. adamsni86 Says:

    @koolaidaudi this is a bad opinion…..sry! Soldering is the preferred method by pros.

  114. fixinggrace Says:

    Try using a soldering iron under the dash; not fun. These Posi Taps are the bomb.

  115. motorztv Says:

    @fixinggrace Well said :)

  116. motorztv Says:

    @fixinggrace Well said :)

  117. NguyenEmpir3 Says:

    who learned how to install their own car alarm after this video?

  118. motorztv Says:

    @NguyenEmpir3 We have heard from quite a few people. Even in the current episode (“Machine Shop”) there’s even a video from a viewer in the Letterz segment where he states he watched Motorz to learn how to install it, among other aftermarket products.

  119. AverageCarMods Says:

    @fixinggrace I agree after using a Gas soldering iron to install my alarm!

  120. AverageCarMods Says:

    @fixinggrace I agree after using a Gas soldering iron to install my alarm!

  121. Elantrix Says:

    Not enough proof to sell me on using the posi-taps… I bet you with thermal shock and constant vibrations, those connections will loosen to the point where the wire just slips out. There is simply no substitute to using solder and heat shrink in a such a dynamic environment to ensure long term quality of work.

  122. Elantrix Says:

    Not enough proof to sell me on using the posi-taps…I bet you with thermal shock and constant vibrations, those connections will loosen to the point where the wire just slips out.There is simply no substitute to using solder and heat shrink in a such a dynamic environment to ensure long term quality of work.

  123. brianbehlen Says:

    @NguyenEmpir3 thought it was great cant expect them to teach people how to read wiring diagrams.

  124. Ebaytopseller Says:

    Lol

  125. 851995STARGATE Says:

    if someone knows how to install well enough, whats stopping a thief from disabling it btw nice install videos

  126. 851995STARGATE Says:

    if someone knows how to install well enough, whats stopping a thief from disabling itbtw nice install videos

  127. victor83007 Says:

    why my car lights dont go on when my alarm is making noize

  128. xMarinex93 Says:

    @NguyenEmpir3 It’s an old video but i did.

  129. sirneo77 Says:

    @motorztv first of all i want to tell you that you do a great job with those videos. i bought a viper 5101 alarm sistem, and i want to mount it on my car(hyundai i30). i want to install it for the remote engine starting. do i have to buy another thing to make it work? Thanks a lot!

  130. dillon14dj Says:

    u should do a vid on a 94-01 acura integra lol im not really sure what to do. like i can hook up the main wires but have no clue how to hook up the wires for the power locks/lights. i have some no name car alarm that i bought off ebay and i do not have a owners manual for the acura so no clue what wire is what

  131. DoItWithVinyl Says:

    Nice video, but I wish you had a video using a CAN Bus

  132. vsmooth1983 Says:

    Im MECP Certified like the rest of these guys i have my own Biznes,all of this is easy.

  133. Dowidux96 Says:

    useful guide. Thanks

  134. oneoleqt Says:

    Sorry, we’ve temporarily run out of the Free Motorz TV stickers!great vidz

  135. litepunk Says:

    you have both!! sorry

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